Posts by life is to short

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Was it encouraging or defeating when you heard counsel to do more ?

by troubled mind in

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small things from our recent elder visit keep popping up in my mind .

one thing we discussed was how much pressure we felt in the congregation to keep doing more , more ,more .......i said that it caused us to never feel we were ever good enough !

if you are not meeting the national average you were treated like a slacker .

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I remember this elder giving a part two years ago and he kept saying can't you just put in 15 more minutes, just 15 more minutes. What is 15 minutes? 15 more minutes will not break you. So you get home at 1:00 instead of 12:30 what is 15 minutes of time giving it to Jehovah.

I just wanted to scream. It is not just the 15 more minutes then it is 30 more minutes then it is 45 more minutes which happened, then we got home at 1:30 or 2:00 and when you work all week and only have Saturday to do any work on your own home is a lot of time.

Then I started to think about those who I was working with in field service, I do not know about others but my husband was an elder and we had a lot of mentally ill JW's in most of the halls we were in. NONE of the elders would work with them, the other elders avoided them at all costs. It was really bad but my husband would feel sorry for them and we always had in our car group at least one or two extremely mentally ill friends. It was so hard going to a door with them because they were not clean and smelled. They could not talk well and the house holder would just look at us like why are you here. I had to let them talk at the doors because they would get upset otherwise.

Then making RV's with them was so hard or having to sit in the car while my husband was on a long call. I swear I just wanted to blow out my brains sometimes tying to converse with them. This one brother heard voices in his head and he always worked with us when he went out. I remember one time my husband left me with him for over a half hour in the car. I thought I would go crazy.

Then we went out the 15 more minutes that we were guilted into doing. I had so much to do at home and shopping on and on. I just came home and sat staring at the wall, after the mornings of the mentally ill.

So no it was not encouraging to be told to do more.

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Elder called last night and they are stopping by tonite for a 'visit'.......

by troubled mind in

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surprised me that he actually followed up on his word and called .

it will be strange after four yrs.

to have them in our house .my husband was not happy to hear it will be two brothers coming over, because he really does not want to feel we are being counseled .

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That was great, I totally understand why you wanted to met with them. So many just do not understand that. It is so freeing to be able to stand up to them after a life time of being put down. I love it when I can get them speechless.

You did great. Thanks for sharing.

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Why did so many of us fall asleep at the assembly's

by life is to short in

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i was just thinking of this driving home from work last night.

when i totally believed this to be the "truth" i could not stay awake.

i really tried to but the next thing i knew i was sound asleep.

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I guess I should have read the threads before I started this Highdose also started one on this topic. Sorry.

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Why did so many of us fall asleep at the assembly's

by life is to short in

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i was just thinking of this driving home from work last night.

when i totally believed this to be the "truth" i could not stay awake.

i really tried to but the next thing i knew i was sound asleep.

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I was just thinking of this driving home from work last night. When I totally believed this to be the "TRUTH" I could not stay awake. I really tried to but the next thing I knew I was sound asleep. I tired taking notes, chewing gum even though that was banded. It was not just me, I would look around and see many, many sleeping. I always felt so horrible and bad about myself. Like I laked faith and did not love Jehovah.

Now that I do not believe it to be the "TRUTH" I do not have any problem staying awake when my husband drags me to one. I kind of enjoy listening to confirm that this is all just a huge CULT. I find many points to show husband of the cult speak.

Most of the JW's will never admit that they sleep though the assembly's but I did have one supper strong in the "truth" elders wife who is my age admit both her and her supper strong elder husband sleep all the way though the assembly's. She said it is some of the best sleep they ever get. She was telling me tricks they use to appear awake so no one will know.

I was thinking last night that the reason we would sleep was that it is hypnotic. Meaning that we were in a kind of trance when we were in the JW's. It kind of was scary thinking of it that way.

So what is your take as to why so many of us fell asleep.

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No I don't believe anyone here has been permanently warped by the Borg any more than your parents could do the same to you.

by gubberningbody in

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you are who you are so much more due to your own peculiar genetic inheritance, and this is what eventually prevails.. there was a longitudinal study i read a number of years ago that tested the idea that we all have inborn "happiness setpoints".

these people in the study were followed through 20-25 years and periodically examined as regards their self-reported measures of happiness.

the finding was that no matter what happened either positively or negatively in their lives, within 8-12 weeks they were universally back to their baseline.. this means a couple of things:.

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I am totally with OTWO, Lady Lee and AK-Jeff.

I really feel if I had been born into a family who was healthy and treated me with love I would not be depressed. But to be put down, abused told I was worthless all my life by my parents and sister. My mom used to tell me "I wish to God you had never been born." Made to take care of my sister who is six years older then I am from the age of 18 until I married at 24 and then to have the guilt placed on me by the so called "friends" who did not want to deal with my family telling me I was being unfair by getting married and having my own life.

To not go to collage and have a life, instead of sitting in a car for hours and hours going out in service in the rules. Driving around and around doing nothing but being with a bunch of nasty people who hated my guts and told me to my face how they disliked me. Yet they were my brothers and sisters the "friends" who would give their lives for me. Yeh right they could not give me five minutes of conversation in the car all day.

Being married to an elder who put the "truth" before me his wife. Being stalked by a crazy nut case "brother" who was telling me he was going to blow my husband away and his wife told me he had his gun loaded to shoot my husband at least one time. My husband being told when he called Bethel for help 'hey your on your own, but above anything else do not bring Jehovah's name into this by getting a restraining order'. Having my husband ask me to craw on my hands and knees in my own home for two years so as not to bring reproach on Jehovah's name as ordered by the so called brothers at Bethel.

Yeh it probably will only take me about 8 to 12 weeks to get over this.

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My Son Responds to his JW Mom's Condescending " Guilt Inspiring" E-Mail

by flipper in

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some of you may have read my jw ex-wife's e-mail to my son last night after i posted it.

this is my son's e-mail response to his mothers initial e-mail.

i think i'll just let this speak for itself.

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I totally loved it. I was laughing so hard for part of it. I loved the way you son thinks. You have to be so proud of him.

All I can say is right on.

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My Son's JW Mom Sends Him Condescending "Guilt Inspiring" E-Mail

by flipper in

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first of all- a little history.

my ex-wife a fanatic jw seems to be in a pissing match ( not of my choosing ) with me over trying to get my son back into the jw cult.

he's 25, been out of the witnesses since 17 and he is very happy with his life .he has a great girlfriend, he enjoys gardening growing his own vegetables and he is a performing singer/guitarist now writing songs and performing in front of hundreds of people .

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Excuse me but I had to throw up for a minute it really made me sick.

I did not have the time to read the other reply's but that was just sick. I truly feel for your son. Living every day with a husband who talks like that it drives you crazy.

Thank God your son see through the crap. Sorry he is going though that.

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Did You Ever Regard Jehovah As Your "Friend"?

by minimus in

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i never felt that "friendship".

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No I always felt he hated me. I just was telling my husband last night I can clearly remember being four and five years old and begging Jehovah to help me. I got nothing. Then I started to promise him things, like I would be really good and do everything right if only he would help me. I still got nothing. Then I grew up and pioneered, went to Bethel and begged and begged and begged Jehovah to help me I still got nothing.

I do not know where Jehovah is but I truly feel he dose not care. I was abused as a child and we had three sex offenders in our hall and the sex offenders are treated like gold and the victims are treated like crap by the elders. Where is Jehovah in that!

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who had a child molester in their congregation ?

by looloo in

i have done this thread a long time ago , but a few newbies have joined recently and may have had some experiances to share , there was 2 in the congregation i was involved with (i was a "study" ) one was from bethel in america and got deported after his prison sentence and the other was reprooved for abuse then carried on abusing in the congregation , years later he abused my daughter and after i found out i reported him to the police , but he had got off "scot free" for 20 years untill i reported him .

i believe the one from bethel was reported to the police simply because elders kids were affected ..

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We had three, one moved away. I just spoke with an elder and he told me I would be hard pressed to find a hall in my city without one in it. Sick

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What if an elder ask you do you pray to Jehovah?

by asilentone in

how would you answer him?

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I was just asked such a question. I acted totally offended and asked why in the world would they be asking me that. What were you applying. I totally turned it on this elder and he just stammered. He was so flipped out at this point that he wanted me to meet with three elders because he said he felt I did not believe the Faithful Slave. I asked why he would think that? And I also said three elder is a JC why would you ask me to meet with a JC. He said no, no just three elders. I was like three elders is a JC and why would I meet with a JC.

He was so mad, I told him to think about it and I had to get off the phone as I was at work. He did not want to hang up and I had to hang up on him. Its been two weeks and I have not heard from any elder so far.

This is all because of child molesters in the hall and I asked him to show me where we are better then the Catholic's. Pissed him off really good. I said when was the last time the Catholic's sent a baby rapist to your door, we just sent one last weekend to other peoples doors.